Curse

Zahr Dalsk · Jan 22, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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I prefer a communist economy to a capitalist economy. Just make them available through quests, like they should have been...

Dougal Kronik · Jan 22, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

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Why bother playing if everything will eventually be given to you.

Orange Milk · Jan 22, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Everyone who wants this has said "its not fair'

well, neither is life, get used to it.

I am so freaking glad that there are people out there like me that feel mini pets are the absolute biggest waste of time ever of anything in the world.

quickmonty · Jan 22, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Never got one of those rare mini pets given to me. I worked for the black moa chick and it is the only one that actually means anything to me.

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bowz · Jan 22, 2008, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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but not mini greased lighting that 1 should remain rare

HawkofStorms · Jan 22, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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A.net created the super rare minis themselves when they only gave out a few dozen of them. They knew they would be rare and worth millions. If a.net wanted them to be more available, they would have done so when the minis were first released.

Vel · Jan 22, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Anduin

Oh, and minipets are one of the dumbest things that have been added to the game.

Yes and No. Dumb from perspective of players who don't like 'em. Perfect for ANET to keep the demand for buying extra character slots for some time.

/signed

Phoenix Tears · Jan 22, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by Zydonis

Selfish? If I want something in game, I -work- for it, just like life.

And the only mini I have ever kept is the Ceratadon.

Now enough attempting to flame, I stated my opinion.

That is the point - we have millions of players, which are WILLING to WORK for those minipets, but ANET gives us simple not the CHANCE for them to let us work for them ...

Everything ANet made about these rare Minipets are yet only Events and Promotions where only limited amoujts of them were released.. but they gave us yet nothing, that enables it every player to get them...

I WANT to work for them... what I don't was is getting forced to farm and grind endlessly, to become able to buy eventuelly them with platin and unhumanous amounts of ectos ...and therefore give up my life >.> thats insane and anet should get rid if this, because its also one of the biggest reasons, why GW got so flooded by Gold Sellers and Farm Botters ...
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@ Orange Milk:

Maybe for you personally they are a waste of time.. maybe for klots of other persons too, but don't do so as if that would be the opinion of nearly all.
There are alot people out there, like me, which wish to collect when possible all of them.
God.. others collect green weapons, others again collect all tormented weapons ect. pp.. everyone has an own opinion about what is important for someone personaölly and what not and therfore should have everyone the possibility to collect everything contentwise, without any borders ...

With green items Anet didn#t made this also, that they said.. these and those greens are for japan only.. and these are only for america and europe >.>

so why the god damn shit did they made this with minipets oO ? its as said total senseless and should be changed so, that everyone becomes able to get every minipet, as long your willing to work for them, when you don't want to buy them over a magazine promotion or so
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@ Mirko Teran:

The "I'm so god damn selfish, I grant nobody else the same stuff I got -everything must be ultra rare so that we have something to claim for to become in 1 sell super rich >.>" Community makes me sick too

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@ Besnter

Guy.. u have absolutely NO clue, what it means in the moment "to work" for the ultra rare minipets...i doubt u even have any clue about, how rare they are really and what you have atm to pay for them ...

When you have found that out, than simple sum all that amount of platin and ectos up and let then the unhumanous sum of platin and ectos needed melt on your tongue, before your brain will realise, that this sum is totally UNREACHABLE..total IMPOSSIBLE to reach ever as a NORMAL SIMPLE player which doesn't farm bot and/or buys gold from gold sellers .... unless you really explode out of luck in kind of your gold item drops and sell permanently stuff for several douzens of platin or even 100 platin and several ectos....

because alone by farming in the underworld you will never receive in a humanous time span all those ectos people want for the very rarest minipets ... without buying them from other people also not ...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...+Price+G uide
here only the minipet price guide from guru ... >.>

Mini Ghostly Hero 5000k- 6500k = 100 Platin + far more over 1000 Ectos (1306 ca. at 6500k)

Mini Greased Lightning 2500-3000k not updated = 100 Platin and over 500 Ectos (612 at 3000)

Mini Longhair Yeti 600k-620k = 100 Platin + over 100 Ectos (126 at 620)

Mini Naga Raincaller 600k-800k = 100 Platin + around 100 - 150 Ectos (163 at 800)

Mini Oni 1000-1300k not updated = 100 Platin and over 200-250 Ectos (265 at 1300)

Mini Island Guardian 5000k+ not updated = again 100 Platin and 1000 Ectos

Mini Panda 8000k+ = and AGAIN 100 Platin + far over 1000 Ectos (1612 at 8000k)

Mini Kanaxai 8000k+ > see above >.>

Mini Grawl 100k - 150k > k, finally one of the cheapest rare ones that is at least "getable" (10 e)

Mini Vizu 8000k+ = have i still to say about that something ??? >.<

Mini Zhed 4000k - 4500k = ....sigh (898 at 4500)
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now let us all this sum up, when you want to collect all minipets, like me and very much others:

= 1000 Platin + around surely over 8000 Ectos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Makes together when calculated more seriously = 8952 Ectos

Now get this first...without farm bottign, without gold buying...without giving up your life at all >.>

damn it....get serious.. you can't take this grindage for real, unless your a farm botter or gold seller, which is happy about, that these things have such high prices, otherwise you wouldn't find in GW people, which would buy from others gold for real money >.< via ebay or illegal gold seller sites on the internet.

all thsoe pets need really to become alot more common and have to reach like the cost of the Grawl (but imo should no minipet cost more then 100 platin, what would be easily done by giving the game finally for all those minipets moa chick like quests ...)

then the player has the choise of either making the quest for them, or buying the pet from someone else, who made the quest ... pets become more common, prices will become humaous and farm botters and gold sellers will lose 1 of the biggest reasons for existence...

Div · Jan 22, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

Agreed.

This 'gimme-everything-now-lol-kkthxbye' community is making me sick.

/notsigned if you haven't figured it out.

Wins the thread, along with the other guy. When everyone has access to the previously "rare" minipet, it becomes no longer rare, and no one cares about it anymore. It'll just be stashed away in storage and HoM.

This isn't pokemon. You don't have to collect it all. If you want to, then be prepared to earn the gold for it. I don't farm, I don't power trade, and I don't buy gold/bot. But I still have over 4 million in gold/ectos, and a lot more in weapons, armors, deleted armors/characters, etc. So don't give me that crap that no one can get money without buying gold or farming 24/7. If I really wanted them, I could fork over my gold for 1-2 of the middle ranged rare minipets.

Phoenix Tears · Jan 22, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Wins the thread, along with the other guy. When everyone has access to the previously "rare" minipet, it becomes no longer rare, and no one cares about it anymore. It'll just be stashed away in storage and HoM.

This isn't pokemon. You don't have to collect it all. If you want to, then be prepared to earn the gold for it. I don't farm, I don't power trade, and I don't buy gold/bot. But I still have over 4 million in gold/ectos, and a lot more in weapons, armors, deleted armors/characters, etc. So don't give me that crap that no one can get money without buying gold or farming 24/7. If I really wanted them, I could fork over my gold for 1-2 of the middle ranged rare minipets.

and ? who cares, has everything on the world to be super rare ?
Rare things are good and fine, ok, but only so long, as they stay "getable" for everyone.

From under 100 to 100 to slightly over 1000 for certain limited minipets ingame in a game that has over 4 million players is an absolute insane ridiculous relation ratio...

god.. should they make those ultra rare minipets the new 3rd year ones. Id find this also absolute ok...they would be an awesome fitting reward for players which reach soon the 3rd birthday year ...

but giving those out as limited promotion to only certain areas of the world is just not fair
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and why do i don't believe you now, that you have so much money without farming/powertradign ect. ...
I play GW nearly since its release and I can't say from me personally, that I played all over the time, like a casual gamer..I farmed and played often for hours and have never got so much money or Ectos at all ...

Prepared for what ? pumping insane amounts of gold and ectos to someone, who got so lucky to get thore rare minipets from a promotion, which i personally had never self the chance to take part on >.> ya sure .... lol

The promotion concept around the minipets simple sucks in fairness, in kind of minipets I dare to doubt even, that ANet knows the meaning of the word "fairness" at all
This may not be pokemon, this is also something, nobody said...but people should all have at least THE SAME chances to receive those minipets.

Div · Jan 22, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

and why do i don't believe you now, that you have so much money without farming/powertradign ect. ...
I play GW nearly since its release and I can't say from me personally, that I played all over the time, like a casual gamer..I farmed and played often for hours and have never got so much money or Ectos at all ...

Because you're bad. Go play WoW, and after grinding for that super-powerful gear, you'll learn that 99% of things in GW is already easily handed to you on a silver plate. The remaining 1% (rare minis, etc.) is what keeps a lot of the powertraders going and gives them something to aim for.

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The promotion concept around the minipets simple sucks in fairness, in kind of minipets I dare to doubt even, that ANet knows the meaning of the word "fairness" at all
This may not be pokemon, this is also something, nobody said...but people should all have at least THE SAME chances to receive those minipets.

Would you rather not have any promotions at all then? With the exception of the lucky few, everyone else has the same chances of getting those minipets through a trade. And most of the people who have those pets now bought them. Plus, if you want to pay $10-15 a month to get a 10 out of 1000000 chance of getting a rare minipet in the promotion event, be my guest. But I'm sure even you can figure out that's pretty bad for your money. You probably didn't even know they had subscription fees, do you? Stop being a crybaby.

Pyro maniac · Jan 22, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Like already said here

The only reason you prefer a Mini Zhed over a Mini Koss (wanted to say devourer, but that one is just dull) is just because it is more rare. You want to show off you got the money to buy Zhed.
If Zhed was available to everyone, you just wouldn't care on buying it. Everyone already has one, why should you need it?

Leave them rare so you actually got something to look forward to if you happen to get the money this year.

Arkantos · Jan 22, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Zydonis

When will people learn that when everything is given to them, it doesn't mean anything?

/unsigned

QFT.

These people earned the minipets, whether they won a PvP tournament, a draw, or an ANet contest. What did you win? Uhh...nothing?

/notsigned btw.

Phoenix Tears · Jan 22, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

you can figure out that's pretty bad for your money. You probably didn't even know they had subscription fees, do you? Stop being a crybaby.

Who exactly do you mean with "they" ? Do you mean with that, that taiwanese and japanese had monthly fees oO ???
That would be really something, i didn't know yet ... but that would be somethign I can''t believe, because Anet said ever, GW will have no monthly fee nowhere ...

Better a crybaby for fairness, then being someone selfloving selfish, which wants to have a game being flloded by ultra rare items which are all limited.

There is the twist in minipets.. would they be so "useless", as so much people say..they wouldn't be so ridiculous high priced.. regardless of how rare and limited they are... so they would be also useless for all those powertraders ect. The only reason why powertraders are interested in them is cause of us people.. which want to collect them all >.> because we have a personal reason in collecting them.

The reason of powertraders having them is only to sell them as quick as possible with a highest as possible profit out of them ... but there will also come sooner or later the point, when people like you will realsie, that being super mega rich is not everything in GW ...

At least at the point, when your chest and all your characters are full of gold to the max, your chest is complete full and you haver no space for any more ectos, and u've everything done, seen and unlocked ect...then will come the point in game life as super rich player, where yo uwill realise, that all this ingame money had only destroyed your real life and that you can't buy your RL back with virtual money ...

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

Like already said here

The only reason you prefer a Mini Zhed over a Mini Koss (wanted to say devourer, but that one is just dull) is just because it is more rare. You want to show off you got the money to buy Zhed.
If Zhed was available to everyone, you just wouldn't care on buying it. Everyone already has one, why should you need it?

Leave them rare so you actually got something to look forward to if you happen to get the money this year.

Uhm.. uhh. simple because to have it too oO eh ??...wtf cares about if all have something.. it isn#t really so, that thousands of thousands of idiots run ingame around spamming, that they own this and hav that minipet and these elite armors -.-
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really... all this shit about rare stuff is only for such selfloving prolly people, which want to show of ever their e-penis >.>

thet people have ever to show others their e-penis everywhere makes me really sick, it's only a sign of beign totally retarded...such people really live mentally still in the stone age imo

"ey YOOO, I have very big big BAM BAM muahaha what have Yoo ?
" oh look at this guy/gal XD he/she has no big big BAM BAM muahahahahah"

"ey YOOO, I have big big BAm BAM, YOO not, YoU NOOB, I'M Pro muahahahah, go in your corner NOOb, I've big big BAM BAM."

"The only one difference in the World is Noob!! you are either a Noob, or a Pro, Thats Life !!!"

omfg ...this shit is really sick and this kind of thinking reminds me on this spastic fool with his braindead friend and his more braindead "girlfriend" from what everyone can think of more, that its surely only his stupid incested sister.... this WoW-fanatic guy with his paladin-shit on YouTube.

lol, I've enough for today - out of here before this thread makes me crazy, its at all so or so, like talking with walls XD

You can't see me · Jan 22, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

/notsigned

Why bother playing if everything will eventually be given to you?

Took the words straight out of my mouth. Zaishen chest is already an /easy button to nearly all weapons in the game. There's no reason mini pets should be added.

It may be a one in a million chance, but we all know that people will get them. Rare miniatures are not rare so that they can be made easily ascessable. That's not their purpose, and never will be. They're like the Collector's edition games.

Not to mention that the Zaishen chest was designed to reward PvPers for their balthazar faction. As I remember, you can't use mini's in PvP. All in all, no logical argument that they should be added.

/Not signed.

Skyy High · Jan 22, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

4million+ players.. but only 100-1000 of these minipets ingame isnt fair .... all minipets should be able to collect by everyone....

No. Let there be rare, completely useless crap in game to satiate the hardcore players. You can't have everything in game as it is, so just give up already and be happy with what you can get.

And shut it already with the e-peen crap, I've never seen anyone say, "Shut up n00b, I've got a Kanaxi!" because everyone with the damn things knows that they're useless and mean nothing. They're just goals to work for; some people like to have high goals to reach, and since it doesn't hurt your play style in any way, let them keep them.

Imagine if someone were to ask to remove everything that you found rewarding, you'd be pretty pissed and quit, wouldn't you?

Kanyatta · Jan 22, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50

There really needs a way for it to be feasible to get these ultra-rare minipets, give some people a fair shot at them. Don't just let the Taiwanese have the Pandas, unless you're willing to farm/ebay 6000k.They need to have some way to be attained by the average player.

/signed

Kanyatta · Jan 22, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

/signed

I prefer a communist economy to a capitalist economy.

Took the words right out of my mouth, btw.

quickmonty · Jan 22, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Yes! A communist economy. That way we can all be poor.

Div · Jan 23, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

Who exactly do you mean with "they" ? Do you mean with that, that taiwanese and japanese had monthly fees oO ???
That would be really something, i didn't know yet ... but that would be somethign I can''t believe, because Anet said ever, GW will have no monthly fee nowhere ...

Better a crybaby for fairness, then being someone selfloving selfish, which wants to have a game being flloded by ultra rare items which are all limited.

Yes, they had fees. I like how you talk about fairness and you didn't even know they had monthly fees. And how's the other guy selfish. He doesn't even have the rare minipet. He just understands economy and supply/demand.